A Mens' Group

Sunday, April 21 Sunny and warm+11
The spring weather has arrived and with it a better attitude from the customers.
Still getting to know my new laptop computer and how it works. Am trying to register the windows XP program but cannot do it manually, I will have to wait till the notice comes up on the screen and use it to gain access.
The email program works well for my communication with Cory, Dana - Susan and the other people that are connected. I am progressing well in my learning curve with this new technology.
The last week went by quickly because of all the tasks I had to accomplish.
I am writing this on Tuesday, April 23.
The meeting with Jimmy D went well with the agreement written up. We are now progressing with the initial blue prints. These are to be done within 3 weeks.
I received the initial blue prints for Wilson and will be meeting them on Wed. The deposit will be made to move things along so we can get started building the home by May 17, so they can take possession of their new home by Nov. 11.
The weather last week turned from winter to spring over the weekend but today has turned windy, cloudy with the temperature around -2. Sweater time again.
Cory is working and receiving more responsibility from Greg. He is enjoying the workload. He is frustrated with Dana and his friends because they are two completely different personalities.
Dana worked a little last week. He went to the dentist to start getting some work done on his teeth. This will start at the beginning of May. My appointment for cleaning went well with another quick visit in Oct.
Peter is back from his trip to the warm waters of Mexico. His scuba time was excellent. Having been back in Edmonton and around Linette for a week he is now back on the plan to make her “get it”. They told Warren they are still intent on building a home but Warren suggested that they come to terms with their lives first. I think they want a diversion now so they do not have to address the problems they have.
Jeff told Warren that he purchased a home in Toronto, renovations are on the way, and the family is moving up there ASAP. He is selling all his and her holdings in Edmonton to make a clean break. The question of Nora is still up in the air.
Hector is happily involved with his lady and is planning a trip in fall to the Caribbean.
Everett is continuing to find work for his company and enjoy his clearly defined relationship with Louise. Susan is moving to her new place this week end. She is all packed and has completed all the inspections and meeting with the lawyers. The place is 98% the way she expected it. She has purchased some interior items to personalize her new home.
My car will be ready this Friday, after three weeks of repair. It will be nice to get back to a vehicle that is mine. The rental was nice but really just a small compact economy vehicle.
I am struggling to find out what is happening with the DVD rewriteable discs that I have and why they will not stay rewriteable. I will have to get some advice and instruction but I am not getting too worked up about it. Warren should be able to help me.
Our squash games are returning to the high level that we experienced before he took the break and went traveling.
We both injured ourselves on Monday. We did it to ourselves. We will survive.

Sunday, April 28- windy, sunny +8
The week has gone by quickly because of the nice weather.
I concluded my doctor’s appointment on Friday. All is well although I have put on a few pounds in the last two years. I know that because my belt is tighter. I will have to eat fewer bagels with cream cheese and move toward more cereals and healthy foods. I am going to do some blood and heart tests in a week or so since I have not done any for such a long time.
Susan moved into her place yesterday with the help of all the family. I dropped by after work to have a drink and talk to her friends and Anne.
Bob and Louise left with Louise driving Bob home after a good night of drinking. Their new house is coming together nicely. Susan is very happy with how her place has worked out and is excited with her new life style. Dusty, the puppy, because of his health problems, is the only concern now.
Luke has moved into his girlfriend’s place nicely and is enjoying the successful end of a school year, a new summer job and the love of his woman.
Cory and Dana have been sending me information and pictures over the week to ensure that my computer and email is working nicely. This certainly is a different medium.
The financing is still not complete for Wilson but only the final approval for the new home, which is to be done this week, needs to be completed.
Dean and Natalie came in to do a home with us in the Grange. The only challenge will be getting a lot in the Grange. We should be able to do the lot exchange with Greenboro Homes. Wilson’s friend, Joyce and Jim came in today to do a wish list for their new home in Lewis Estates.
The men’s group has been doing well.
Hector and his new lady friend have split up. She wanted a little more space than what Hector was giving her. He liked her so much that he wanted a permanent relationship within two years.
Peter is letting Linette have her way in investigating the building of a new home.
Warren and I are still playing squash in spite of injuring ourselves last Monday. We played on Saturday with my finger giving me a lot of pain. After properly taping the finger the pain went away. I managed to break my racquet without hitting the wall. I took it in and they will be giving me a replacement when it comes in. Warren is still progressing with his computer programming work and feels success is just around the corner.
I picked up my car on Friday all new and nicely painted. It was nice to get it back and drive a sports car. Now for some new tires and a windshield and I will be all set for summer.
Some golfers were out on the course behind the Showhome today. The wind must have made it very cold.
The grass will not be green for several weeks with golf a good month away yet. I will have to get flying this week, since there were no planes available last week. I did not look very hard but the weather was not that good either.
Gillian has decided to come out for the family reunion in the first week on June and stay for about 3 weeks. She will be traveling from here to Calgary and into B.C. to visit people.

Sunday, May 5, Windy, cold, some snow -6
Winter has returned with some of the coldest spring weather in a long time, some cold records are being broken this week. We keep being promised spring time weather but I expect that this will be a cool and wet year in Alberta. Spring planting conditions are not good, although southern Alberta had some snow fall that will help the moisture level with the cold temperatures helping to control the grasshopper problems.
Had my blood and heart work done on Friday, with a follow up visit to see Dr. Tilley in a couple of weeks. The nurse was nice to me and used a sharp needle for the blood sample. The week has gone by in a regular fashion.
Wilson’s bank is still getting itself together with the financing coming together on Friday so a deposit should be available early this week.
I paid the income tax so the payment from Wilson will be a nice relief.
Cory helped me a great deal with the computer this week and helped explain the different configurations that are available for storing information.
Dana had a bad ache from one of his teeth with an infection the problem but it has set him up for going to the dentist and getting some major work done. He will be tapping into the medical fund I have set up for medical emergencies. I discussed with him the reality of making this job work or looking at something else. He will have to do a reality check soon.
Cory is busy doing his graphic art car designs on the computer for Greg and just loving it. He got hooked up with a new lady this last week and has been happy about it. He said something about her being 34 and divorced a year.
The squash has been very good with Warren. The finger requires taping for the games and today my hand is still sore from our Saturday game but it is a great deal of fun. I have changed my eating habits a little to include more cereals and less bagels and it seems to have had a small effect already. The doc says that I am in great health but am carrying a few more pounds than necessary.
I know that.
I dropped in to see Steve N at the ADT office and have coffee with him. I talked to Beth, Tom and a few of the other people at the office while I was there. Had a pleasant chat with Tom and caught up on a few items of general interest. It is a little easier to speak with him but we both know that things did not end well. His position was difficult and I ended up making the correct decision, but it was still an upsetting event.
Peter was all happy with Linnette’s decision to see a professional counselor over the next several months. Peter was still concerned that he was kept out of the loop by her until she had made a final decision to see the professional. He will have a hard time not interfering with her movement through the therapy.
Hector is comfortable that he is now moving on with his life after his lady friend made it clear that she wished only to be friends. He is so driven to create a permanent relationship with a female in the near future to fulfill the need he has. I expect that there is someone out there to help him achieve that desire.
I spent some time with Susan last night. Celebrated her new place with a good bottle of champagne and watched a movie. Dusty, the dog, is fitting right in at the new place. Dusty is not barking as much as Susan feared with the walks around the block in the morning and evening taking care of the bathroom concerns. Susan is getting her exercise and Dusty is getting to see a totally new world. Susan’s brother, Patrick, is retiring from teaching this year and was celebrated at a very complimentary function on Friday night. He will go on now to do things that are of his making to fill the time that he has available.

Sunday, May 12, Mother’s Day, sunny, warm, +14 clear
I was able to get the lot that Dean and Natalie wanted next to the lot that was incorrectly priced. They were happy to be building in the area that first attracted them. We just need the blue print to be able to sign off on the agreement.
I have been able to arrange a pre construction meeting with Wilson’s this coming week with John.
I called Gillian to chat with her about her visit in June. I am coordinating with Cheryl for Gillian’s sleeping arrangements and car transportation. Cheryl is busy and having some difficulty with Darryl but she says that it is just life and she is moving on with it. She was going to a golf game with him on Friday and suggested that we get in a game soon.
Saturday night, Fred and Susan came over to see Susan’s new place. We had a good time together catching up.
Fred and Sue talked about their holiday in Hawaii and are looking forward to going to Vancouver Island in July when his current job is over. He hopes to travel and work in Sarnia and possibly Mexico with the company that he is with. Sue still has the cold and nasal problems that have been with her for the last month. Ryan, Fred and Sue’s son, is back from Montreal taking a course for the next few months required to enhance his teaching degree. Kelsey has moved back in with Jonathan while his parents are in England. Things are moving very slowly in that area. She is not taking responsibility for growing up.
Saturday morning I was awakened at 6 in the morning by an Edmonton city police man telling me that my car had been hit by a drunk driver. There was minor damage to my car that I had parked on the street overnight. Quite a way to wake up. The back bumper was cracked.
They arrested the driver and he has insurance. I have to pick up the report today or Monday and then decide whether to get it fixed through the insurance company or even report it. I will talk with AMA on Monday.
Cory and Dana have been in contact with me through the email. Dana will be going to the dentist this coming week to start work on his teeth.
The couple from Hanna came in on Saturday to start the process on a new home again. They sold their home and have tried to build up north but have not been successful and now would like to have something built in the area. The house plan they have will not fit any of the lots that are available. Jimmy D came in and we made some changes on the house blue print we had put together. I need the plot plan to show him how the house will sit on the land. I will probably drive up to Edson with the plans when I have them. It will be a nice trip..
I tried to fly on Friday but the plane had a potential problem and I could not go up. Perhaps this week. I called Steve N but he was not able to some along. Dean, my first flight instructor, was at the club on Friday so we chatted for a time.
He is doing well and flying as much as he wants. He is looking very good and seems happy. It was nice to see him again.

Sunday, May19 Windy, wet and cool +9
The week was steady with Monday starting out with a change of clothes after I spilled a cup of coffee down my front in the morning.
Progress was made in Jimmy’s banker, talking to Chris and arranging for a deposit to be made. Jimmy came down on Sunday to meet with John and myself to complete the house design. We are on to final blue prints.
Brent and Neil made the second deposit on their home to move it along to a blue print stage. The blue prints for Danilak will be coming on Wednesday.
Monica was all excited about the Cascade in a Bungalow style.. She put a lot on hold to get some stability and will come in to see the prices next week.
Susan has rearranged some items in her condo this week. I had supper with Holly, Jason and Mathew on Saturday and then we watched some TV.
I took mother over to visit with Susan on Friday. She enjoyed the visit.
On Thursday, mother and I went to the citadel to use some of the Christmas tickets that I had given her. We saw a play based on “Who Has Seen the Wind” by W.O. Mitchel. It was very good and brought back the energy and wisdom of live theatre.
Hector met Warren and I at the squash courts at Grant Mac to play some squash. Warren’s friend Ron and his girlfriend made an appearance also. Hector is a very good player and just needs some new shoes and racquet to get back into the game. Playing him will give Warren and I some variety in the different style of the game.
Peter was in Calgary so was not able to be at the group meeting. It was a humorous get together with a great many jokes and funny concepts pursued during the time.
I went flying on Thursday out to Lac La Biche. The weather was fine with sunshine throughout the flight. The heat rising off the ground made for some turbulence but it was great. I will have to get out next week again.
Dana was to have some dental work done this week but he has not contacted me to say how it progressed. Cory has been silent also but I expect to hear from them tonight.
Mother is angry with Cheryl for not calling and asking her to go to the birthday party she had for Curt. Oh well, just life as it is. Cheryl is busy and will be able to get past it.
I will have to get some tires and windshield for my car this week when I get paid for Jimmy and Brent. Sure do need new tires. I would not go on a long trip with the ones I have at the moment.
The landscape is finally getting green with the small amount of rain we are receiving.
I still have not heard from Shirley. She should be just about finished with her course in Toronto. She may be coming back in July, I would expect.
I had a massage with Odette on Friday but we did not talk much as I wanted to concentrate on the massage and the relaxation that went with it. She has been traveling with her fellow to the Island and had just come back. I hope she had a good time and enjoyed the traveling.
Susan had a discussion with her about the upcoming trip when she had her massage. Odette did not discuss how it went. Odette said that talking to me confused her but not in a bad way.

Sunday, May 26, Sunny, some wind, +20 quite lovely
The week was very good. I received payment for Brent with the bank sending money for Jimmy D.
I met with Dean and Natalie on Friday to get the OK on the house plans. The down payment will come this week sometime. I need the address for the home to allow Dean and Natalie to be able to give the information to the bank.
I paid off the gold card. Now I have money to pay off the RRSP loan and start putting money in the RRSP for this year. I am able to put in 26k approx. Bought some tires for the car and will look into putting in a windshield this week. Time to pamper the car for a while, possible CD player in the next month for the car.
I had AMA look at the bumper and will get it fixed if the other car owner’s insurance will cover it. I have still not received the report from the police but AMA has requested a copy.
I passed on a small referral fee to Susan for her help with Jimmy D but she was reluctant to accept it. We spent Friday together and had a good time.
Saturday, I spent with Derek, Ray and Alex (golfing buddies) at the Two Hills golf tournament. We had a good time in spite of the weather. It was windy all day with some rain, some hail, some cloud and some sunshine during the golf tournament. We have not golfed very much this year and it showed. My new driver is not working well at all so I may have to look at changing it to a more flexible shaft. I will talk to the professionals at the golf shop this week and see what they say. I will look into getting some custom clubs made this week to find out what they can do and what they will cost. Do not really need new clubs but might treat myself.
The feeling that I have money to spare and do not have any debts is a strange and different feeling. It is not something that I have experienced before and have to come to terms with the different position in the financial world.
The year has been very good. The year is only five months along with the potential to make a substantial amount of money this year. We will see. Anything is possible.
Dana is still having a difficult time getting work and I am troubled by my reaction with this turn of events. I talked to Susan about it for a bit and feel a little better. He has gone to the dentist last week and is comfortable with the work done. He is to go on the 29th for more work. His lady friend is putting the charge on her credit card and he will pay it off if he gets enough work. The work will have to pay for his rent and other items or else I will cover it for a while. He has not called to talk this week which might mean that he is working many hours and is unable get to the phone or computer.
Cory has applied at Mountain Equipment Co op for a job on the climbing wall. He will get some experience and training that will allow him to do some work in the mountains if he comes back. Quite an enterprising fellow. He is working with Greg although the number of contracts is slowing down for the summer.
Peter is feeling better now that Linette has been going to a therapist and they are taking walks together to spend time together. He is not aware of her control of the situation. Everett was not at the group but we are concerned that he says that all is perfect in his life.
Hector was with his kids but Peter says that Hector is very concerned with the way his oldest son is not maturing quickly enough. He has been to a family doctor that is helping to coordinate an appraisal of the child. Warren continues to work on his project and is quite up this week. His support staff is all in line and helping the projects move along quickly.
I was able to do some shopping this week, buying some clothes and a watch for myself. I booked a car for Gillian’s trip here but will have to confirm the price with her today.

Monday, June 3/02 sunny with a few clouds/ some drizzle but warm +21
The week went by at a steady pace.
Only a little traffic. The next door Showhome has shut down and moved to Spruce Grove. Several other Showhomes have closed leaving only two of us on the block.
Raj, Ben and Pat came in during the week to separately discuss homes. Raj is shopping around and is enthusiastic but is grinding for a price. Ben is in the price range if he wants to stay in Lewis Estates ,otherwise it will be hard to find a lot for him.
Pat Thomas, is something else, if she comes in tonight I will get a better feel for what she wants. She dropped by Saturday to confirm that we controlled lot 56 and she would have to build with us. She called late Saturday night to have me put a hold on it and said that she would be in on Sunday. She then said she would be in on Monday night. These things are yet to happen.
Dana was not sure he would go to the dentist again; he may wait till he is on the union contract. I said it was up to him but not to get into trouble with his teeth. They were not going to fix themselves. He had worked several days. He was in charge of blowing things up and was quite proud of himself. He still needed some money to make his rent. I do not know what to think of this. It is a good investment I feel.
Cory called to say that his birthday was great with his girlfriend. He was talking about moving into a new place with her. They are happy and in love. He is doing some more work for Greg and has done a day on the movies. He expects to spend some time up north at a cabin with his new found girlfriend. Things are moving along nicely.
I had a great golf game with Cheryl on Wednesday and enjoyed the time with her. I hopefully helped her golf and we talked about many things. I played a round with Derek and Williams on Friday and shot an 82 on 18 with my new clubs. I tried out two new types of clubs from McGowans during the early part of the week and settled on one set at a lesser price than I had expected. The sales person was very good and provided great service. I arranged to exchange the single driver that I had purchased last week for one that seems to be better. I have yet to try it out. I am stuck with it and will have to learn how to use it or give it away as a gift if it does not work. I will try to get it to accommodate my swing.
Life is good.
Had a good time with Susan this weekend. She is really enjoying her new place and the interest from her friends in her new lifestyle. Her birthday is coming up on June 15. Dinner and something else is in order now.
Gillian is coming on Thursday in the morning. Terry has agreed to give her a car for the time she is here. I will pick her up, have lunch with mother and then take her out to Terry’s place.
Hector came out to play squash with Warren and myself on Saturday morning. It was a good change and provided us a chance to play different styles.
The week coming up should bring some rain to help the grass and trees although it is not in the forecast yet.

Sunday, June 9 Sunny with clouds building for showers in the evening, +21, calm
The week has been a little exciting,
I was trying to be helpful to the other sales rep. client but frustrated her by showing the client the homes in Leduc. The clients do not wish to use her but John said they would have to for the first little while.
My Pat Thomas showed up and gave a hold cheque for the corner lot and is coming in on Monday to do a wish list. Very busy woman and brings a great deal of energy with her.
Gillian came in on Thursday. I picked her up, had lunch with her and mother than took her to Terry’s place. Terry was not home at the time, so Gillian had a nap before he arrived.
I went back to Edmonton for the men’s group. Jeff showed up and was quite forthcoming on his recent activities. He has invited all the people that mean something in his life to his place next Saturday for a party. I would not miss this for most anything. Jeff seems to have a handle on his life, but Warren says that he really is still quite confused. I wish him the best.
Susan enjoyed her birthday present, a massage and a day of pampering and was very appreciative. I got to see Mathew again. He is a very pleasant young child.
Luke was very successful at some Mall selling of Calvin Klein perfume. He has quit the city job and is working at Capital City Savings.
I arranged to have a windshield put in my car this coming week. I was able to get an oil change done when I went over to the dealership on Wednesday. I will be getting a new stereo system from Audio Sound this week also. I think that a CD player would be a pleasant addition to the car, quite nice to listen to when I am traveling in the mountains. I am arranging the trip to Fairmont to see Derek in July with a stop in the Banff area.
Raj has come in every day this week to work on his ideas for the house and make some changes. John and I will start working on the plan on Monday. I may do some designs on my computer today.
I talked to boys earlier in the week.
Dana said that work is picking up with some possible contract with Much Music group. Cory is making noises about moving into a loft with his girlfriend. Dana just rolled his eyes and made a “brotherly comment” when I told him about this event.
I have had a call from Joe saying that he was still waiting to hear about the lots that are coming available across from the golf course. It is a great feeling to have these calls coming in. I will have to start deciding where I want to place my money during this last part of the year to use it effectively.
I am negotiating with John and Chris for a commission rate increase for the homes sold above 10 and 20. I discussed it with Chris and put it on paper so he could talk to John about it.
Irving came in this week and requested a raise because he feels that he is worth more. I said ok since he is still making me money. He does not know that all I have to do is not have him work one day during the month to get his total income to what it was before. It is still a good deal.

Sunday, June 16, sunny, clear, +28
Saturday was clear and hot +29, just about a record.
The week has been a busy one. Monday was paper day.
Tuesday I had the car stereo put into the car, golf on Wednesday with Cheryl, Thursday I had a new windshield put into the car and Friday I went golfing with Ray.
Saturday, during the day was work with a birthday dinner for Susan at Thornton court and then to a party for Jeff at his place.
Gillian was busy with mom and shopping during the week. We went out to Von’s with mother for supper on Thursday,
Had an argument with Andy Ho about the front door and whether he should pay for it. I had to make a point with him about his need to ask for more and more.
John met with Jimmy D on Friday to deliver the blue prints and get any new ideas from him. This was nice of John as I was golfing and could not make a meeting later in the afternoon. I met with Pat Thomas in the late afternoon to give her the new drawings and discuss the process of the agreement. She will be coming in on Monday with the final decisions to do up initial blue prints. The lot diagrams and layouts for the new Potter Greens area still are not out but the machinery is working on the land.
Annette came in to talk about the property for Joe.
Peter and Linette returned the blue prints that I had left with them.
This week I will have to get the candle holders I ordered for Susan’s birthday.
The party for Jeff and Victoria was pleasant. Everyone was there from the group and we all got to know one another.
Dolf, a friend of Jeff, was someone who was interested in our mens’ group although he is involved with one himself at the moment.
Warren said some very pleasant things about our relationship.
Susan said I was correct in my assumption on Victoria’s actions re going to Toronto. Jeff and I had a short chat before I left. He is moving very fast and under a great deal of strain. I don’t know whether I will contact Nora or not. I will probably allow her to contact me.
Hector continues to improve as he plays squash with Warren and me. His arm is getting some tendonitis and he will have to get some medication to control the pain.
His coffee date with his blind date went well. He said that she was older than he had expected.
Gillian and Mother went out for lunch with Jim, Marion and Daryl at the Red Lobster on Saturday when they were in the city for a short. She said that they talked about the new religion they were involved in. Jim wants to become a disciple. Marion said very little.
Terry is getting along well with Gillian and will be going dancing this weekend.
Cory sent me a new t shirt for father’s day. It has writing and slogan’s on it and is quite delightful.
I was able to book lodging at Calgary and Radium for July. I was also able to book some golf at Kanakas country when I was passing through to see Derek and Viola.
This planning is getting out of hand and might become a habit. It is nice to know that everything is reserved and I don’t have to rush and be unsure of what is going to happen next. The upcoming week should be a little quieter and less costly. I have just about purchased everything that I wish for now.

Sunday, June 23
Work continues at an even pace.
Gillian had lunch with me on Tuesday, talked about the family and what she is learning from her visit here. She is helping Cheryl redesign and finish her back yard. I gave her a few ideas that might prove to be useful. Cheryl is coping with the extra visitors but is encountering some problems at work from her accountant.
I had a good series of games of squash with Warren but managed to lose even tho he was using an older racket.
John and I are meeting with Raj this Thursday, finally.
Gillian is keeping us busy with her activities and suppers, but all in all it is enjoyable. She and mother went out to see Kurt’s two boys and spent 5 hours talking with them. Gillian came back with pictures and many questions.
I played golf with Ray and won although I did not do as well on the back 9 as I had hoped. I drove a green 290 yards on the hard pan that is Fort In View.
Met Gillian at Mother’s after and then spent some time with her at Cheryl’s after stopping off at Susan’s. Played squash with Warren on Saturday and won a hard fought series. Warren was disturbed by what Peter had said about not wanting to talk to Sally, though Warren was welcome to visit.
Susan was busy on Saturday so I spent some time at the Casino and managed to make enough money to buy a new battery for my car. It is giving up the ghost and I had to get a boost this Monday at Tim Horton’s. I am concerned about it starting tomorrow when I take Gillian to the airport.
Pat Thomas came in with a revision on her plan. We are fine tuning the design.
The meeting Raj, Kari, John and I went well with John suggesting that they go to see the Surrey in Sherwood Park and we can work a plan off that unit. They were happy when they left and will be in contact early this week. John made a suitable impression on Raj.
A younger couple who live in the area came in with his parents and will be making an offer on the show home this week they said, for an October possession. It might be a little early but I should have managed to sell as many lots possible from the few that are coming on line in the new area. We really have not had that many offers on this show home and I expect the boys to take the offer if it is at all reasonable. Jeff is in Europe at the moment on holidays. The paper on the new lots is still not available so I have had no reason to contact the people on the list.
The weather has been very warm over the past few day, with the temp in the + 30’s.
I have not heard from Cory in over a week, I expect that he is busy with his lady friend.
Dana called to say he was all right and expecting a big contract to do special effects in Sask., in the fall from a friend of his. I hope so. This will give him some creditability in the industry and he can get to see his mom. His teeth are all fixed and he is starting to get the bills for them.
My reservations are all complete for my trip and I am looking forward to the time off.
Irving is happy with is wage increase and will fill in when I am gone.
Derek is up on a fishing trip with some friends from Vegreville this weekend. He has never been on such trip and was looking forward to this time spent up north. They were driving and then taking a boat. No flying in the trip, so he was happy.
The weather reports are for thundershowers tonight. The forest fires are mostly out at the moment but we had a fire in the ravines around 97th street and 94th Ave. that claimed a million $ house that was in the way. Houses that are made of wood burn very fast it seems.